Do you throw the hand in?

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Do you throw the hand in?

Postby Patrick Phair » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:03 pm

November 15, session 2 hand 9

As Vorhand you hear both opponents pass and you hold:

J: C
C: ATK
S: T9
H: T
D: TQ9

(a) Do you bid?
(b) If you do you pick up SJ and C9 in the skat. What do you play?
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Re: Do you throw the hand in?

Postby nswedd » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:14 pm

As Vorhand you hear both opponents pass and you hold:

J: C
C: ATK
S: T9
H: T
D: TQ9

(a) Do you bid?
(b) If you do you pick up SJ and C9 in the skat. What do you play?


(a) I do. Even if I'm not vorhand I bid, as I hate defending with a singleton T.

(b) I play Grand.
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Re: Do you throw the hand in?

Postby Patrick Phair » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:30 pm

This hand was passed once and bid to 18 by Michael and me.

I decided that six tricks in Grand weren't enough even with two tens in the discard, though thinking about it afterwards it is close. (I will score 8 points in jacks, 28 in clubs and 20 in the discard for 56. The opponents need to arrange to give me seven pip cards to hold me to 56. If the jacks split I have more scope.) Because of this I played in diamonds and made schneider for 36.

Michael played in Grand and made schneider for 96. I suspect the schneider was the result of a friendly defence.

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Re: Do you throw the hand in?

Postby Mike Tobias » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:11 am

a) Definitley bid 18 in any position

b) instant thought, discard ST,HT and play Clubs. It was only after seeing Nick's post that I considered Grand, I hope I'd have seen it 'live'
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Re: Do you throw the hand in?

Postby John McLeod » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:07 pm

(a) I would definitely bid.
(b) I think I would have played diamonds, unless I thought the defenders were weak players or I needed a lot of points to catch up. It seems to me that I can never make it if the jacks are in one hand, and if they split I will make it sometimes. Not really good odds.
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