Do you throw the hand in (a different hand)?

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Patrick Phair
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Do you throw the hand in (a different hand)?

Post by Patrick Phair » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:05 pm

November 15, session 3 hand 27

As Vorhand you hear both opponents pass and you hold:

J: -
C: Q87
S: -
H: AK7
D: ATK9

(a) Do you bid?
(b) If you do you pick up HJ and SA in the skat. What do you play?

nswedd
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Re: Do you throw the hand in (a different hand)?

Post by nswedd » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:21 pm

As Vorhand you hear both opponents pass and you hold:

J: -
C: Q87
S: -
H: AK7
D: ATK9

(a) Do you bid?
(b) If you do you pick up HJ and SA in the skat. What do you play?
(a) No.

(b) I play diamonds: they are my longest suit, and they are cheapest to go off in. With four weak trumps, I would never get diamonds to run as a sidesuit anyway.

Patrick Phair
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Re: Do you throw the hand in (a different hand)?

Post by Patrick Phair » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:43 pm

This hand was passed out at all three tables.

I was among the players who passed as Vorhand, and when I saw the skat I wondered if I had missed an opportunity. Grand is unlikely, though the two top jacks would make the hand similar to the other one I asked about. But a jack and a club give you a good chance in clubs, while CT and D7 make a solid Null Ouvert. If you don't pick up a black jack and don't expect to make a contract Null is cheapest.

Patrick

Mike Tobias
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Re: Do you throw the hand in (a different hand)?

Post by Mike Tobias » Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:28 am

Patrick Phair wrote:This hand was passed out at all three tables.

I was among the players who passed as Vorhand, and when I saw the skat I wondered if I had missed an opportunity. Grand is unlikely, though the two top jacks would make the hand similar to the other one I asked about. But a jack and a club give you a good chance in clubs, while CT and D7 make a solid Null Ouvert. If you don't pick up a black jack and don't expect to make a contract Null is cheapest.

Patrick
a) Pass
b) Diamonds

I'm with Nick. You need both cards to be helpful, and even then aren't guaranteed

John McLeod
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Re: Do you throw the hand in (a different hand)?

Post by John McLeod » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:09 pm

I agree with Nick and Mike. (a) pass and (b) diamonds.

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