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A hand from February

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:02 pm
by nswedd
Here is a hand from our Young Chelsea event in February (it was hand 15 of session 1).

You are forehand. The other two players pass. You pick up the Skat, and then hold

J CSHD
C K97
S A98
H
D Q8

You discard (I assume) the diamonds. But what do you choose as trumps? I believe
that on the day, I got this wrong.

Nick

Re: A hand from February

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:50 pm
by Mike Tobias
Without looking at the other hands:

Clubs, unloseable, 8 guaranteed tricks, excellent chance of schneider.

Spades, with 5, but only 7 guaranteed tricks, less chance of schneider and could go off with a 4-0 split in clubs.

Definitely Clubs in preference to Spades, but I'd be sorely tempted by Grand, which, although having a greater chance of going off than Spades, at least has a worthwhile pts reward.

On balance, Clubs, and be prepared to kick myself when every other table makes Grand.

Re: A hand from February

PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:29 pm
by Patrick Phair
I also would go in clubs on this hand. (I was actually in a different seat when it came up.)

When writing up the hand I noticed the surprising five-point difference for spades over clubs (both made Schneider). I then wondered if it was ever appropriate to be with 5 -- most of the time one will either make a different suit trumps (as here) or play in Grand.

Patrick

Re: A hand from February

PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:18 pm
by nswedd
I thought Grand too risky, and chose clubs.

In either clubs or spades, you are most unlikely to go off, or to make Schwarz. Clubs gives you a better chance of Schneider, whereas spades gives you the certainty of an extra multiplier. I failed to consider the extra multiplier when I chose clubs.